Comments on: Wrestling With Truth: The Desire to Be Right or Love Jesus? http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/ "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises." Hebrews 8:6 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:18:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Caribbean Shulamite http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/#comment-5688 Caribbean Shulamite Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:28:23 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1172#comment-5688 Just found this blog and this is a powerful entry. Jesus does say that those who LOVE Him, KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. Obedience IS better than sacrifice...Blessings to you in Jesus Just found this blog and this is a powerful entry. Jesus does say that those who LOVE Him, KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.
Obedience IS better than sacrifice…Blessings to you in Jesus

]]> By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/#comment-4921 lionelwoods7 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:13:04 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1172#comment-4921 Thanks for the kind words Frankie G! By the way please give your "educated" opinion, whenever you fell like it. We actually enjoy those comments. Thanks for the kind words Frankie G! By the way please give your “educated” opinion, whenever you fell like it. We actually enjoy those comments.

]]> By: Frankie G http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/#comment-4913 Frankie G Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:09:59 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1172#comment-4913 finally!!! i so enjoy reading all of your writing as well as the brothers comments. i understand the point of getting into the substance of the Word. i understand the differences in doctrine that are shared. so many times i wanted to jump in and give my educated opinion, or just my interpretation of whatever scripture or truth you folks were discussing. I constantly held back. bit my tongue. at times just shook my head. But today I stand in my chair and shout a loud and glorious ... "AMEN". Love. its that simple. Merry Christmas and Abundant Blessings Frankie G (spankie) A Biker for Christ finally!!!
i so enjoy reading all of your writing as well as the brothers comments. i understand the point of getting into the substance of the Word. i understand the differences in doctrine that are shared.

so many times i wanted to jump in and give my educated opinion, or just my interpretation of whatever scripture or truth you folks were discussing. I constantly held back. bit my tongue. at times just shook my head.

But today I stand in my chair and shout a loud and glorious …

“AMEN”.

Love. its that simple.

Merry Christmas and Abundant Blessings

Frankie G
(spankie)
A Biker for Christ

]]> By: Jon Paden http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/#comment-4898 Jon Paden Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:02:40 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1172#comment-4898 Mike, Thanks for your response. It seems that you are at least willing to do a further study on this subject. If we still disagree after your own diligent search into this matter and possibly upon further dialogue, then let us agree to disagree and continue in love and in peace through Christ. Jon Mike,

Thanks for your response. It seems that you are at least willing to do a further study on this subject. If we still disagree after your own diligent search into this matter and possibly upon further dialogue, then let us agree to disagree and continue in love and in peace through Christ.

Jon

]]> By: Mike Odlyzko http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/12/04/wrestling-with-truth-the-desire-to-be-right-or-love-jesus/#comment-4895 Mike Odlyzko Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:29:35 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1172#comment-4895 Jon, Thank you for the links. There is a lot to digest there that I'm only skimming over (for now) -- I'll try to digest them further in the future. I apologize for just throwing out links to Piper, Moo, and Keller when they seem to be talking past you. On a more fundamental level, you're convinced they, with their teachers before them, misconstrue key Greek terms and the narrative arc of the Bible. Not yet grasping the intricate details of what you believe and why, I haven't much else to say. I'm not persuaded, though, that universalism is necessary to vindicate the goodness of God, nor that it's biblically grounded. I actually think it's just more important to take hell (or some lesser judgment, if you will) seriously in our hearts and words, as Lionel exhorted in the August 17 post you linked. Jon,

Thank you for the links. There is a lot to digest there that I’m only skimming over (for now) — I’ll try to digest them further in the future. I apologize for just throwing out links to Piper, Moo, and Keller when they seem to be talking past you. On a more fundamental level, you’re convinced they, with their teachers before them, misconstrue key Greek terms and the narrative arc of the Bible. Not yet grasping the intricate details of what you believe and why, I haven’t much else to say.

I’m not persuaded, though, that universalism is necessary to vindicate the goodness of God, nor that it’s biblically grounded. I actually think it’s just more important to take hell (or some lesser judgment, if you will) seriously in our hearts and words, as Lionel exhorted in the August 17 post you linked.

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