Comments on: Who needs Faith? http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/ "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises." Hebrews 8:6 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:18:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/#comment-3733 lionelwoods7 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:36:49 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=858#comment-3733 Jesse, I will keep that in mind next time I read my bible. Thanks. Jesse,

I will keep that in mind next time I read my bible. Thanks.

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By: Hutch http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/#comment-3732 Hutch Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:14:17 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=858#comment-3732 Have you ever been reading something while drinking a Coke and what you were reading made you luagh out loud and Coke spewed out your nose? Well, I am cleaning off my keyboard and monitor! BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Have you ever been reading something while drinking a Coke and what you were reading made you luagh out loud and Coke spewed out your nose?

Well, I am cleaning off my keyboard and monitor!

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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By: Jesse Gistand http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/#comment-3730 Jesse Gistand Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:52:14 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=858#comment-3730 "I'm not totally depraved, and utterly helpless! I dont accept your view on Soevereign election! Christ died for everyone. He paid for everyones sins! including, Pharoahs, Nebebchunezzar, Judas Escariot, etc People can lose their salvation, when they walk away from the Lord! Judas was saved, He just didnt hold out!" Such a person is ignorant of the gospel. The gospel is the person and work of Jesus Christ. 1cor 2:2 If you get His work twisted, you do not know Him! Ps9:16 Mth 7:21-23 " You bring many good subjects to the floor of consideration young man. I enjoy many of them, and comment very seldom.I haven't chimed in for months. And will keep it that way." Your diatribe on faith is suspect. The course of argument, is liberal, and as I warned you, has very dangerous consequences, which are already operating in the life of many, who undermine the veracity and potency of the Word of God. The issue with alot of folks, is not that the bible is insufficient. It's that they don't KNOW IT! Ps 119:96 They pretend to be serious about the scriptures, and speak of things they don't understand, and suffer a disorientation, when God doesn't shine His glorious light, into their dark hearts, through His glorious record! Isa 8:15,16 And they mock his truth, calling it an idolatrous 3rd person! Hence the delusion begins! We are clear. We need not continue this discussion. God bless you! “I’m not totally depraved, and utterly helpless!

I dont accept your view on Soevereign election!

Christ died for everyone. He paid for everyones sins!
including, Pharoahs, Nebebchunezzar, Judas Escariot, etc

People can lose their salvation, when they walk away from the Lord!

Judas was saved, He just didnt hold out!”

Such a person is ignorant of the gospel. The gospel is the person and work of Jesus Christ. 1cor 2:2

If you get His work twisted, you do not know Him!
Ps9:16 Mth 7:21-23

” You bring many good subjects to the floor of consideration young man. I enjoy many of them, and comment very seldom.I haven’t chimed in for months. And will keep it that way.”

Your diatribe on faith is suspect. The course of argument, is liberal, and as I warned you, has very dangerous consequences, which are already operating in the life of many, who undermine the veracity and potency of the Word of God.

The issue with alot of folks, is not that the bible is insufficient. It’s that they don’t KNOW IT! Ps 119:96

They pretend to be serious about the scriptures, and speak of things they don’t understand, and suffer a disorientation, when God doesn’t shine His glorious light, into their dark hearts, through His glorious record! Isa 8:15,16

And they mock his truth, calling it an idolatrous 3rd person!

Hence the delusion begins!

We are clear. We need not continue this discussion.

God bless you!

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By: Lionel Woods http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/#comment-3695 Lionel Woods Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:32:49 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=858#comment-3695 Jesse, 1. What delusion do you speak of? Please define it. 2. What areas am I "slipping" in? 3. So you are saying if one does not understand the Doctrines of Grace they don't know Jesus. And I am slipping? BTW, I am no more frustrated then anything else Jesse,

1. What delusion do you speak of? Please define it.

2. What areas am I “slipping” in?

3. So you are saying if one does not understand the Doctrines of Grace they don’t know Jesus. And I am slipping?

BTW, I am no more frustrated then anything else

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By: Jesse Gistand http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/09/28/who-needs-faith/#comment-3693 Jesse Gistand Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:47:53 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=858#comment-3693 To brother Lawrence, and Tyus, gbc@flash.net, anytime you want to discuss theology, the doctrines of Grace, Church history, the apostasy, etc. If you go to the site, and listen , you will know, if I speak of myself, or of another! "Christ is all" And if you live only 50 miles away, you can listen to me everyday on the largest station in California. KFAX100am 12:00noon mon-Fri. My point is very clear! While reformed theology sets a frame work for understanding the God of the bible in terms of the redemptive work of Christ, it is critical for the believer to know what it means to live on Christ, Himself, as the life of the gospel. John 14;6 And that many, many in the reformed community have come to doctrine, and not to the Savior. They've switched from Arminianism, or pentecostalism, or other, only to find, they have not been fulfilled, with the reality, which is Christ , himself. Being disappointed, they have made themselves succeptible to this psuedo-charasmatic, delusion. Isa 66:1-4 / 2cor 11:1-4 / Rev 20:7,8 Lionel, just demonstrated the frustration, that comes with missing this reality. ( Lionel did you listen to the sermon? Or, are you to proud to be helped?) You are a bright young man, but you are slipping, and you need to catch yourself. Our hunger for GOD MUST be met in Jesus, by the SPIRIT, through the word of God. John 16:8-15 The Spirit of God, would never teach you, to talk like Lionel has been talking , or those who are an advocate of a higer faith experience. John 17:17 And as for the doctrines of grace, I preach teach, believe and reinforce them, as the framework, but Christ is the message. The gospel is a person! You canot have the true Christ, without properly understading the doctrines of Grace. But you can have the doctrine, and not have Christ! And there is no satisfaction, there! God cannot lie, fail, or change. Christ satisfies! To brother Lawrence, and Tyus,

gbc@flash.net, anytime you want to discuss theology, the doctrines of Grace, Church history, the apostasy, etc.
If you go to the site, and listen , you will know, if I speak of myself, or of another! “Christ is all”

And if you live only 50 miles away, you can listen to me everyday on the largest station in California. KFAX100am 12:00noon mon-Fri.

My point is very clear! While reformed theology sets a frame work for understanding the God of the bible in terms of the redemptive work of Christ, it is critical for the believer to know what it means to live on Christ, Himself, as the life of the gospel. John 14;6

And that many, many in the reformed community have come to doctrine, and not to the Savior. They’ve switched from Arminianism, or pentecostalism, or other, only to find, they have not been fulfilled, with the reality, which is Christ , himself. Being disappointed, they have made themselves succeptible to this psuedo-charasmatic, delusion.
Isa 66:1-4 / 2cor 11:1-4 / Rev 20:7,8

Lionel, just demonstrated the frustration, that comes with missing this reality. ( Lionel did you listen to the sermon?
Or, are you to proud to be helped?) You are a bright young man, but you are slipping, and you need to catch yourself.

Our hunger for GOD MUST be met in Jesus, by the SPIRIT, through the word of God. John 16:8-15

The Spirit of God, would never teach you, to talk like Lionel has been talking , or those who are an advocate of a higer faith experience. John 17:17

And as for the doctrines of grace, I preach teach, believe and reinforce them, as the framework, but Christ is the message. The gospel is a person!

You canot have the true Christ, without properly understading the doctrines of Grace.

But you can have the doctrine, and not have Christ!
And there is no satisfaction, there!

God cannot lie, fail, or change. Christ satisfies!

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