“It is not enough to combat ideas. We must effect the change ourselves. God’s method is men. He sends redeemed men and women into the world to be a Light for the world, so they may see our good works and glorify God for them”

Brother keep holding it down in apologetics we need it, and as long as you are pointing them to Christ and Him crucified then I say “great” but many aren’t my friend.

“There may be a place for that, and I do fear losing ground to those who promote various anti-Christian, anti-Biblical things (like those Lionel mentioned); but perhaps the best defense is a good offense. Perhaps if we busy ourselves more about making disciples, we will have to worry less about non-Christians, because there will be fewer of *them* and more of *us*. ”

I agree that we need more time engaging the culture for Christ. We are more concerned about Gays getting married than we are seeing Gays regenerated and I think most of our Evangelical time is used to refute the sanctity of marriage than engaging gays with the truth of the gospel.

next you said:

“But we can exercise our individual gifts in the way that suits us best (as long as that’s really what we’re doing, and not just talking about it) — as Paul said, “if the whole body were the eye, where is the hearing?” We all need each other — eyes for seeing, ears for hearing, hands for doing, feet for walking.”

I also agree with this Sirus said some awesome things and as long as the cross in the end focus of his apologetics than I am with him 100% which he explained he is.

“Do you think that the people who are suffering in Sudan, Haiti, Rwanda, and many other countries in the world care about calvinism, Intelligent Design, creation, evolution. I’m afraid not. Oh Yes, we can gladly talk about gay marriage, homosexuality, republicanism vs democraticism.

You see the Gospel in America has been americanly structured and constructed; to the point that its meaning and application have no relevance to the oppressed, disenfranchised and the outcat among us.”

Brother what is funny is the more you study this the more frustated you become. I see man marching on Washington for the “sanctity of marriage” while outright ignoring the genocide in Sudan. Evangelicals as a whole have little problem with a justice system that instead of rehabilitating the guilty allows DA in office who cares more about a convictio than the truth and votes for this guy because he is Republican. We are more concerned with are borders and illegal immagrants (which really means Mexicans because all if not most of their great-grandparents were illegals) than they are those with no healthcare (not to mention more healthcare will raise their taxes and that will cut into their early retirement).

“So there’s a sense many slaves held that their suffering was divinely ordained by the Almighty God who rules sovereignly over all earthly and heavenly power.

A Reformed view of God can’t prevent this but also a Reformed view of God can’t allow it to continue and I am glad that God open the blinders of many of our ancestors of the flesh to see this as an evil against not only the black people but also agaisnt God Himself.